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Is there a direct ethernet connection to the SafeX possible beside the USB-C ?

Pinball_NL
Long-established Member

Is there a direct ethernet connection to the SafeX possible beside the USB-C ?

With ctrlX safety Engineering, can we for example connect to the SafeX over a ethernet connection or is the USB mandatory ?

The SafeX-C.12 has only Ethercat for FSoE, if you don't use this I think it can't be used for Ethernet. 

The SafeX-C.15 has beside the Ethercat also other ports which might be used in this occasion. But I cannot find a proper explanation in the documentaton.

Therefore my question. If I have a standalone SafeX, can I connect my computer with ctlrX safety engineering over ethernet to this device? 

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AllAutomation
Community Moderator

Re: Is there a direct ethernet connection to the SafeX possible beside the USB-C ?

Hello Pinball,

indeed the engineering connection matrix looks like this:

  USB (Serial) Eth1: EtherCAT EoE (TCP/IP) Eth2: Ethernet / Profinet IO (TCP/IP)
SAFEX-C.12 X X -
SAFEX-C.15 X X X

 

Consequently a direct Ethernet communication is only possible on Eth2 of the SAFEX-C.15.

Technically possible is also the replacement of the EtherCAT functionality on Eth1 by Standard-Ethernet (e.g. to support Engineering and SMMC (Safe-Master-to-Master-Communication), but there are only number of requirements and consequently no schedule for this. This is especially advantageous for Standalone or simple applications.

Please pay attention: Often you need some data out of the safety application. At the moment this information can be only provided via the functional data interface of fieldbus protocols EtherCAT and Profinet.

If there is an application for a SAFEX-C.12, please discuss it with us!

HTH

Your ctrlX SAFETY Team

Pinball_NL
Long-established Member

Re: Is there a direct ethernet connection to the SafeX possible beside the USB-C ?

Do we have a HowTo how to configure in the C15 the TCP/IP.

I do not get it working. Or do we need a Virtual Machine for this (within Bosch)? I read something about that.

Pinball_NL
Long-established Member

Re: Is there a direct ethernet connection to the SafeX possible beside the USB-C ?

If I have a SafeX C15 Stand alone (and No Profinet)

Can I connect to the C15 directly like the shown picture?

 

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AllAutomation
Community Moderator

Re: Is there a direct ethernet connection to the SAFEX-C.1x possible beside the USB-C ?

Hello PinBall,

first - the products are called SAFEX-C.12 and SAFEX-C.15, neither SafeX nor Safex-C or any other derivation. Using other than the official names can produce irritations and wrong answers.

second - USB connection is no Ethernet but USB-to-Serial.

The engineering connection means ctrlX SAFETY Engineering on your PC connected to the SAFEX-C.1x device to send a configuration or apply debug or diagnostic actions or any other online action.

Eth1 provides only EtherCAT. TCP/IP Engineering works only if EtherCAT is active and EoE is configured, including IP-Forwarding applied to the ctrlX CORE's Ethernet interfaces ene0 (engineering port) eoe0 (EoE virtual adapter).

Eth2 (only available on SAFEX-C.15) provides TCP/IP connection (for engineering and SMMC) starting with change index AF1 and Firmware 1.0.1.19, even without Profinet running (and without Profinet's address assigning mechanism), since SMMC is running with/without Profinet.

Your last question can be easily answered. But the answer is given in previous statements of this reply. Just try to connect the ctrlX SAFETY Engineering via the Eth2 of your SAFEX-C.15 and you'll see.

ATTENTION: Please do the first touch with USB to set the right IP-address for your network. If I'm right the default is 192.168.1.1 subnet mask 255.255.255.0.

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HTH

Your ctrlX SAFETY team

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